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Rio Chroma Revealed!
comment: 63 | Friday, August 26 (2005) 08:51PM | Posted by Austin Vaughan
It wasn't a myth! Here be the Rio Chroma.

These are the only known pictures to have escaped from the (former) beta crew at Rio. It's been hard to keep such a thing under wraps for so long but we didn't want to jeopordize our source. Now that Rio Audio is shutting down, it's time to share.

As you can see, the Chroma looks just like the illustration (right) that was found an obscure webshop and ended up on the pages of so many blogs over the last year. Many people thought it was a hoax, some figured it was the real deal, and others were content to wait and see.
Of course, it never happened. The Chroma project was killed near the end of 2004. There were some personell issues within Rio that kept it from getting completed and eventually they decided that it wasn't economically feasible.

This year, they went to work on a couple of new players, building from the Carbon and Chroma. These were called the Avalon and K2 (aka, Cubic).

The Avalon was going to have the same design as the Carbon, but with an OLED color screen and 8gb MicroDrive. There was OGG and FLAC support in addition to the current list of features. They were within a few weeks of shipping them out to a group of beta testers when the annoucement came that Rio had sold off its IP to Sigmatel, and the beta program was put on hold. Permanently.
We know very little about the K2, except that it was going to have most of the same features that were planned for Chroma, but with a bigger hard drive (30gb) and an improved design. It was still in the alpha stage, so the general pool of beta-testers were not given much information.

And there it ends. Rio Audio is dead. We're never going to get a chance at the Chroma, Avalon, or K2. The engineers at Rio were a talented bunch, as they proved with the Karma, but Rio has been losing money for a long time now and today they decided to pull the plug on the entire operation.


A History of the Rio Chroma...Chroma was originally due in Q3 or Q4 of 2004 as a successor to the Rio Karma (which debuted in late September of 2003). The Chroma was going to have a slimmer design, a color screen, voice recording, an SD card slot, and would feature a driverless interface (Mass Storage Complient and able to scan and database it's own tracks) - just like the Rio Carbon. As you can tell from the pics, Chroma had the same basic design as the Carbon, but it was a little bigger to accommodate a 20gb drive.

The Chroma was first mentioned in January of 2004, on Gear.IGN.com, after the editor (M.Wiley) had a chance to check it out during the CES convention. READ.

"Now for the stuff I can't write about. Firstly, Rio will be announcing a new Karma this spring. It will get a redesign and is very small. I can't tell you how much smaller it is than the original, but it is a good deal more compact. It also looks really awesome. The new Karma also has some solid new features. It will get a color LCD and an SD expansion slot. I can't say anything else, but it was one of the most exciting devices at the show. Rio is on the right track."DAPreview posted its first news article about the Chroma a few months later, in July (2004). The name "Chroma" had been spotted on Rio Audio's webpage during a redesign of thier site. READ.

A the start of August (2004), M.Wiley at Gear.IGN commented again on the Chroma after a private meeting with Rio. READ.

"Even though the Karma 2 was absent, I managed to absorb a few interesting details. For starters, it is reportedly much different from the prototype I saw at CES. I was very impressed with the model at the show, so much so that I had a hard time imagining what changes were being made that would make it so different. Nonetheless, it is undergoing more drastic changes than any of the other new models. Rio plans on unveiling the Karma 2 in spring 2005.

As far as specs, I would gamble that Rio is going with a more compact, clicker looking enclosure, a USB 2.0 interface, driverless operation, a color LCD, and an SD expansion slot. These were details from CES and I see no reason why any of them would change."
That was bad news, because we had been hoping that the Chroma would be ready for September, the one time of year when they regularly release new models.

Later that same August (2004), details appeared on the product page of a generic-type webshop. READ.

Specs• 1.8-inch, 20gb HD
• Plays MP3, WMA, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, Audible & WAV formats
• 16 bit color screen
• View album cover art & photos
• Voice recording
• SD/MMC card expansion slot (SDIO)
• No software required for loading music & data (drag & drop from Windows Explorer)
• 12 hours playtime per charge
• 5-band custom EQ
• Includes dock, remote control, carrying case, earbuds, cables

Rob chimes in...Strangely enough, some conflicting reports arrived in our email boxes by the end of that commotional month. Something called the "Rio Audio Vixen" popped up, which looked like something completely different than the "enlarged Carbon" we had seen before. Supposedly, this "Vixen" would be the new launching pad for either the Chroma or the Karma 2 - one of the guys sending this claimed that the Chroma and K2 were in fact two totally different devices.

The Vixen was rumored to come equiped with a 65k TFT color screen (180 x 128 pixels) and someone even claimed to have a grayscale-LCD'ed version of it in his/her possession (for beta testing). We never heared of it again, nor did we get to see any pictures except for this banner slash artworky-thingy:

By the way, "Vixen's" design did inspire us to come up with our own spin-off, the Rio Audio "Twist". Hey, April Fools (2005) kinda rules - and it didn't look half bad, now did it?
By September (2004), the first picture appeared. A simple illustration, that is. There were mixed reactions. READ.

In November, it was spotted at another webshop. Same specs, but this time with a better illustration and an expected MSRP of $ 330. People continued to be skeptical that this was the real deal. LINK.

We already had a contact in the beta group by then, and we had the pictures, but we couldn't say much about it to protect the identity of our source. We did however drop a number of hints here and there, including some pretty obvious ones...

"We cannot confirm nor deny that THIS IS the actual design, but if we pretend that THIS IS IT, what do you think..? Post your reaction in the comments."Anyway, the year ended uneventfully and by the time CES 2005 rolled around (January), we were ready to see something, anything new from Rio. Me and Rob went to Las Vegas to squeeze some information out of these guys but they wouldn't give an inch. There was indeed a new player there, but it was only being shown behind closed doors to executives and distributors. They shut us out completely... a big dissapointment. READ.

By February (2005), it became clear that the Chroma was probably a dead duck, and it was time to say so. READ.

In July, Rio sold off its IP to Sigmatel, which signaled the end. READ.

Finally, today, it's official. Rio Audio is getting out of the MP3 player business, and taking the Chroma with them.
Comments

Fixxxer

Comments: 36
Aug 26 (2005) 09:15PM  

And we watch another giant die. FUCK YOU APPLE!!!







Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
Aug 26 (2005) 09:28PM  

I wonder if any of them would have had gapless




Fender 13

Guest
Aug 26 (2005) 09:33PM  

I think they all did.

Anyway, it sounds like it would have been a great player. The only thing I'm not crazy about is the 12 hour battery life (which in reality would probably be 10). Such a shame...




Steve

Comments: 1197
Aug 26 (2005) 09:36PM  

Oooouuuch!!! SOB!! I hope the new Sigmatel team kicks Apples ass back to the 3% market share they deserve, and I hope Apples DRM gets cracked open as much as a whore during fleet week.




Rio Fan

Guest
Aug 26 (2005) 09:57PM  

Time to grab the last few Rio Carbon and Refurb Karma on the market!




shiftis
Location: Canada
Comments: 369
Aug 26 (2005) 09:57PM  

I wish Rio was still here.




Austin Vaughan
Location: Lenexa, KS
Comments: 768
Aug 26 (2005) 10:06PM  

courtesy of mr. karmalicous:

[Linky]

lol!!




chicubs

Comments: 915
Aug 26 (2005) 10:11PM  

SCOOP!




Lone

Comments: 973
Aug 26 (2005) 10:41PM  

'Tis a shame...great design, great features, gone.




shiftis
Location: Canada
Comments: 369
Aug 26 (2005) 10:51PM  

Could have used a battery boost, though.




renegade732

Comments: 38
Aug 26 (2005) 11:37PM  

The Rio Avalon sounds wonderful




LycoLoco

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 12:15AM  

I honestly think we need to push for the firmwares to be released to the public so that we can make a Rockbox for the Karma and Carbon




ContraX

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 01:04AM  

{ Rest In Peace }




rbilsbor

Comments: 37
Aug 27 (2005) 01:20AM  

Damn, I wished they'd shipped the Rio Chroma before going bust--Instead I have to still deal with jamming the Rio Brick (aka Karma) in my pocket for the forseable future, until someone comes out with something really good based on former-Rio-now-Sigmatel's chipset.




rbilsbor

Comments: 37
Aug 27 (2005) 01:21AM  

Oh, and yes, we'll miss you Rio.

Also, that Chroma had a small-ass screen.




vince

Comments: 115
Aug 27 (2005) 01:22AM  

I so would've bought one of those.




zip22

Comments: 1809
Aug 27 (2005) 01:58AM  

hahaha, yeah its apple's fault...

and steve, apples DRM has been hacked for a long time [Linky]

there were also a few front-end programs that let you download without the DRM even put on the file at all, but i think those have since been blocked by apple.




zip22

Comments: 1809
Aug 27 (2005) 02:04AM  

i really don't understand why some companies don't attempt to cater, even slightly to the requests of people who want gapless or user eq settings. does something about gapless make it undesireable? does it use more battery?

gapless seems like one thing that should have been and could have been crossed off the list a long time ago. i don't care one way or the other, but it seems like theres enough bitching about it that some engineer at one of the companies could bring it up at a meeting.

i was just dreaming of a 5th generation ipod that had wma playsforsure, gapless, user eq, the shuffle's sound quality, and some sort of video playback. 1,2,3 and 4 would have no effect whatsoever on the usage for joe sixpack. the video might make the main menu a bit longer, but nothing major. i'm sure you guys would have something to bitch about, though




Lone

Comments: 973
Aug 27 (2005) 02:43AM  

Yeah, where's the line-in recording




Morwan

Comments: 70
Aug 27 (2005) 03:03AM  

Wow. Now that we actually know about what happened behind the scenes. Rio/D&M Holdings (the company) deserved everything they got. It's kind of nice that the engineers got off pretty well, too... But that's probably still up in the air.

If the Chroma 20GB sold for $330 in Fall 2004, quite a few people would've purchased them.




ihpeetje

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 05:08AM  

just get an iRiver H120, still avaible here and boot with rockbox firmware. All you need...




Andresín

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 05:59AM  

Ah well, I'll just get a Sony NW-HD3 then. They're on the cheap




Steve

Comments: 1197
Aug 27 (2005) 06:54AM  

Thanks for the info Zip22, not that I could actually bring myself to buy something from the ITMS, but it's nice to know about.

Of course it's not really Apples fault, in any case not as much as D&M management and perhaps of an uneducated public. It's just that Apples market share, IMO based more on advertising hype than substance, makes it unnecessarily difficult for the competition, even with superior technology. Although i'll admit the ipod looks good while I think the Karma is kind of ugly. I'm sure that had something to do with more than a few buying decisions over the last two years. The Carbon OTOH is a masterpiece of design (though I wish they used screws!) but it had an underpowered processor, so the Avalon would have been near perfect in that space. Let's just hope Sigmatel Inc. comes through with the powerful features we all want and whatever companies buy it wrap it in some beautiful packaging, and the buying public begins to develop some peripheral vision the next time they shop for a DAP. All is not lost, those 9,000,000,000 ipods out there will have to be replaced someday, and the market is far from saturated even now.




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 27 (2005) 07:17AM  

That just shows that Rio had no idea about industrial design, that Chroma is fugly.




Allen
Location: Dub Vee Ooo
Comments: 1511
Aug 27 (2005) 10:55AM  

Ahhhhh.... sigh..... _




Radical Conformist

Comments: 148
Aug 27 (2005) 01:29PM  

"That just shows that Rio had no idea about industrial design, that Chroma is fugly."

Your face is fugly.




vjacques

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 01:50PM  

oh well. but their design is indeed abit "off" to say the least. and what's the whole deal with the gapless playback? were rio players the only ones? toshiba gigabeat anyone?




Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
Aug 27 (2005) 02:16PM  

this is a sad sad day in the life of dap's, and of me, but i'll get over it, how?by not caring anymore, think i'll check the forums one last time, Goodbye dapreview, its been a pleasure, sometime in the distant future i may pay you all a visit again, anyway keep up the good work austin, rob, nick, alex, brandon, brian, if you want to, bye bye...

Dominic




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 27 (2005) 03:01PM  

Radical Conformist - Explain yourself please




Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
Aug 27 (2005) 04:04PM  

Basically he's saying you're ugly. What don't you get?




chicubs

Comments: 915
Aug 27 (2005) 04:23PM  

aah...the chroma really isnt that ugly. It would look better without the sticker on and in person, I bet, judging by the carbon.




Cassiopeia

Comments: 188
Aug 27 (2005) 04:38PM  

musicman is a ipod fan boy. Don't care about his comments. He can't accept anything that opposes the creatures of the holy Stevie.




pomegranate

Comments: 72
Aug 27 (2005) 04:54PM  

Well I for one know what musicman is talking about - of course it's fugly. It breaks the basic rules of DAP design - it's not white, and it's not designed around primary geometric shapes. Terrible!







Steve

Comments: 1197
Aug 27 (2005) 05:44PM  

"Well I for one know what musicman is talking about - of course it's fugly. It breaks the basic rules of DAP design - it's not white, and it's not designed around primary geometric shapes. Terrible!"

BUT it has a shiny stainless steel back! Does that mean NOTHING to you??!!!






musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 27 (2005) 05:51PM  

Your hostility to my only makes me laugh out loud. I voice an opinion on the design of an inanimate object and people who have never met me and have no idea what I look like choose to personally insult me, very adult behaviour I must say. Bring it on, make me laugh some more, be as brutal as you can if it makes you feel big.




pomegranate

Comments: 72
Aug 27 (2005) 05:55PM  

They're personally insulting you because, by saying "Rio had no idea about industrial design" you're clearly an assclown, there's no need to meet you. Unless you'd care to concede that what you said was grossly exagerated?




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 27 (2005) 06:02PM  

When people here voice negative opinions about facets of the iPod's look/design do you see me personally insulting them? Of course not, that is just plain childish. I will not withdraw my opinion of the Chroma, I think it looks awful.




Sebhelyesfarku

Comments: 398
Aug 27 (2005) 06:07PM  

so if I think that the iPoo looks gay or like a kitchen/bathroom appliance it means Apple had no idea about industrial design?




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 27 (2005) 06:15PM  

That's your opinion and you are of course entitled to it, as I am to mine about the Chroma. I personally can't see the gay connection, which is strange if you take into account that I am apparently an assclown.....




shiftis
Location: Canada
Comments: 369
Aug 27 (2005) 06:33PM  

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[Linky]
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JrezIN

Comments: 70
Aug 27 (2005) 08:41PM  

:cry:




pata2001

Comments: 141
Aug 27 (2005) 10:29PM  

Great... So much for the hope of the next gapless capable MP3 DAP. Just great... I wonder, 10 years from now, people will still be looking at either the Karma or rockbox on iRiver H1xx for gapless MP3. Sad.




Anonymous

Guest
Aug 27 (2005) 11:34PM  

musicman of course you don't insult them because you know its true.

You need to learn some timing my friend, when you make a comment like that especially right after a company that a lot of people know and love
including myself you should expect some back lash. Honestly you make a comment like that and you expect no one to retun in kind. Either stop griefing here or be a man and take whats coming to you. Now if I may pick up where Radical Conformist left off and let my inner-child out for a minute.

Id like to point out that its not musicmans fault his face is fugly. You can thank his fugly parents for that. He needs an iPod so he can hold it and a macmini next to his face to draw attention away from all his fuglyness. Everyone knows the iPod is great at drawing attention away from the fugly its one of its main features.






jv

Guest
Aug 28 (2005) 02:43AM  

Alright, Austin. I'm 99.9% sure you're kidding, but there's that tiny part of me that really, really wants this to be true. Did you really put in a bid for the Rio brand name and projects?

I'd invest some cash to get this company back on the map - with proper management and marketing. I'm sure many others would as well.




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 28 (2005) 03:43AM  

"Either stop griefing here or be a man and take whats coming to you."

What would you know about being a man, you're not even willing to identify yourself, prefering to hide behind the anonymous moniker.




FenderP

Comments: 46
Aug 28 (2005) 04:12AM  

You want gapless? Get a Sony. My Karma (RIP) died, I got an iAudio - hated "near-gapless", and got the Vaio Pocket. Never looked back. I can live without FLAC or lossless support.




shiftis
Location: Canada
Comments: 369
Aug 28 (2005) 04:24AM  

You only get gapless playback with the Sony if you use ATRAC3plus.




Phil

Guest
Aug 28 (2005) 05:51AM  

Problem with the Sony's as far as I am concerned is the reluctance to use bookmarks or OGG or wma. If there was a bookmarks facility on the HD5H I'd get one in a shot. Only it doesnt. And as Sony don't care to listen to their customers, its unlikely to ever do so.




pomegranate

Comments: 72
Aug 28 (2005) 06:45AM  

Come on Phil, be fair. Sony have shown considerable change recently in that respect - they've added MP3 playback to their new and old players, after their longstanding reliance on Atrac and DRM...
They seem to be sorting out some of their internal organisational problems and conflicts of interest

Check this story from back in January: [Linky]

and this about their (comparitively) pioneering ideas on digital music:
[Linky]




Pooh

Guest
Aug 28 (2005) 07:31AM  

"That just shows that Rio had no idea about industrial design, that Chroma is fugly."

What makes that comment particularly risible is the notion that an individual like musicman might know anything about industrial design beyond something he might once have read on the back of a cornflakes packet.





musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 28 (2005) 09:36AM  

So Pooh, you seem to know a lot about me, at what profession do I earn my living?




Pooh

Guest
Aug 28 (2005) 10:19AM  

"So Pooh, you seem to know a lot about me, at what profession do I earn my living?"

Going by your previous posts and your almost preternatural hypersensitivity, obviously a job that requires little intelligence and even less character.




Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
Aug 28 (2005) 10:32AM  

"this is a sad sad day in the life of dap's, and of me, but i'll get over it, how?by not caring anymore, think i'll check the forums one last time, Goodbye dapreview, its been a pleasure, sometime in the distant future i may pay you all a visit again, anyway keep up the good work austin, rob, nick, alex, brandon, brian, if you want to, bye bye...

Dominic "...........

Strange, i didnt say that, well i didnt type that anyway, whos pullin the piss?i'm not leavin this website that quickly,it fruckin rocks, i am saddened by rio's departure,but i love my karma,long live my karma....




haroldpark

Guest
Aug 28 (2005) 11:18AM  

"You only get gapless playback with the Sony if you use ATRAC3plus."

This is true of the HD models but FenderP was referring to the Sony Vaio Pocket, a device that can reproduce both ATRAC3+ and mp3s gaplessly from all acounts.




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 28 (2005) 12:20PM  

"Going by your previous posts and your almost preternatural hypersensitivity, obviously a job that requires little intelligence and even less character."

And those, including yourself, who have reacted so venomously to my commect are not being overly sensitive? Three words; pot, kettle, black. I'm only replying to people who think they're winding me up when in fact, as I said earlier, I find it all highly amusing, good sport. That you should hijack a thread that people are using to express their feelings/thoughts towards a product/company and continue trying to insult me demonstrates your own diminished intellectual capacity. Why not stick to the topic in question, do you not find it stimulating enough? By all means, keep the insults coming if it makes you feel better about yourself, it's water off a ducks back to me.




Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
Aug 28 (2005) 12:43PM  

good points musicman, now both of you, and others, just shut up or get back on topic.(ps i realise this is off topic too but stop whinging and bitchin, its really tiresome)




Kovno

Comments: 110
Aug 28 (2005) 09:55PM  

Musicman has a valid point (on topic). I have a Karma, and love it, but it really does look ugly. It's chunky and looks very dated. Yes, it's got some great features, but 99% of people will choose something that looks good over gapless, Ogg, etc. Creative has found the same with some of its players. If companies want to compete with Apple they will have to produce something that looks good.




Fryhole

Comments: 137
Aug 28 (2005) 10:28PM  

Why couldn't Rio have just shipped a few of these things THEN closed the door...I feel so close to the Chroma that I feel I DESERVE one....Its not fair. Now please, you don't bitch about the people that bother you at a funeral do you? So lets not bitch about that stuff here. Its time to cry.




vjacques

Guest
Aug 29 (2005) 09:44AM  

toshiba gigabeat for gapless playback anyone?




XAgent

Guest
Aug 30 (2005) 01:58PM  

"
And those, including yourself, who have reacted so venomously to my commect are not being overly sensitive? Three words; pot, kettle, black. I'm only replying to people who think they're winding me up when in fact, as I said earlier, I find it all highly amusing, good sport. That you should hijack a thread that people are using to express their feelings/thoughts towards a product/company and continue trying to insult me demonstrates your own diminished intellectual capacity. Why not stick to the topic in question, do you not find it stimulating enough? By all means, keep the insults coming if it makes you feel better about yourself, it's water off a ducks back to me."

All of what you say is blantly ironic. Obviously, it sounds like you want to be the troll while busting in the rooms with a chip on your shoulder; and adding to the fact that you're a supporter for the iPod makes it that much more asinine. You said earlier: "That just shows that Rio had no idea about industrial design, that Chroma is fugly." could you have been any less subtle than that? Just because it isn't white and not the shape of a regular bar of soap doesn't make it fugly. Though people will cry about subjectivity like yourself, I say the look of a player only makes up part of a reason when purchasing one.




musicman

Comments: 336
Aug 30 (2005) 09:16PM  

I like the mobiBLU DAH-1500i, that's not white, shaped like a soap bar or fugly.....




XAgent

Guest
Sep 01 (2005) 06:08AM  

I bet it sounds like the iPod, so that's why you support that too, huh?




musicman

Comments: 336
Sep 01 (2005) 03:39PM  

Don't know, haven't got myself one yet but if, as you bet, it does sound like an iPod then you've made up my mind for me. Consider the order placed.....




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