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Stuff has Visions of M
comment: 50 | Thursday, December 08 (2005) 11:27AM | Posted by Austin Vaughan
Stuff Magazine UK has a hands-on preview of the Creative Zen Vision M. Check this:

The Zen Vision should be available by 16th December for $ 349 in the US and “between Ł200 and Ł250” in the UK. So is it worth emailing Santa to change your Xmas list? Maybe. Basically, if you want to use Napster, or you’re keen on the video functionality, or you happen to love FM radio or the sound of your own voice, then go Creative. If, on the other hand, you’re worried about style, thickness and capacity… the iPod video is available now.

More details at stuffmag.co.uk
Thanks, Adam
Comments

Flid

Comments: 262
 		Dec 08 (2005) 11:38AM  

Bloody hell. The 16th Dec?!?! Wow. Booking a site visit to Dixons on that day! Definitely need to have a play.
Remarkably quite turnaround from Creative. Slowly... they are learning.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 11:42AM  

$349? what the hell



3284lmm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Comments: 358
 		Dec 08 (2005) 11:50AM  

yea... the price is wayy too steep, i'm dissapointed. No removeable battery? :/ If they want to compete against the ipod G5 it must be lower in price.



kineticarl

Comments: 31
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:26PM  

I've seen somewhere that the battery is replaceable. Also, if you must have this thing, wait about a month, and you'll probably be able to find it for under 300. Most creative players' prices tend to drop soon after their release.



Matt Random

Comments: 16
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:28PM  

The price here seems wrong. The US site now has it listed at $329. At least I'll likely be able to check this one out in person at Best Buy unlike Cowon or iRiver. Rushing it out before Chrismas is a good idea since Best Buy keeps sending out 10% off coupons (makes the price the same as the iPod).



3284lmm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Comments: 358
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:40PM  

Yes, i'm so proud of Creative for getting a product out so quickley upon release hopefully we can expect this from all there players. Well executed, or so it seems.



kineticarl

Comments: 31
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:51PM  

The vision:m is now on creative's website.



kineticarl

Comments: 31
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:55PM  

Oh, and watch the little video/commercial. kind of cool. no, no dancing silouettes.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 12:56PM  

kineticarl: thnx, thats a pretty sweet flash design, the photography kicks ass too



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:04PM  

"loads of entertainment without the load"

who comes up with this stuff?

and it looks like you need the sub-pack to connect to a TV (not sure on that, but the picture has it plugged in though the subpack, and i'm not sure whay you would include that if it wasn't necessary)



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:04PM  

the hell, looking at the specs page, it says "removable disk storage: yes"

[Linky]



Flid

Comments: 262
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:06PM  

Customizable shortcut button!!!
I like that idea a lot. That was something I craved for years with Rockbox, but never came to anything.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:06PM  

zip: dont bash insignificant copywriting on a flash website thats not creatives main slogan, this is hardly something you should talk about since u praise steve jobs so much whos the same guy that bashed the karma for having a bad display and then released the shuffle with NO DISPLAY.

Your not one to talk of such things.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:07PM  

why*



Matt Random

Comments: 16
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:08PM  

The 'removable disk storage' threw me for a loop when I read it. I think it means that this functions as a removable harddrive.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:09PM  

what are you going on about?



Flid

Comments: 262
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:09PM  

Yeah. You need to subpack for TV-Out.
Removable Disk Storage.... I'm guessing they mean UMS device capability. Not.... removable harddrive. Now... that'd be nice

Still can't see anything about removable battery. If it does come out, the only place I can see is via the touch-strip (hence the groove).



sashimi

Comments: 18
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:25PM  

it needs XP too



enCORe_XTG

Comments: 317
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:33PM  

With 4 hours of video playback, at least the 2 hours movies are playable with some music.



egloskerry

Comments: 410
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:44PM  

Mark it down to 299$, creative.



Sebhelyesfarku

Comments: 398
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:51PM  

looks like the iPoo, gaps like the iPoo, is this an iPoo?



Matt Random

Comments: 16
 		Dec 08 (2005) 01:57PM  

This model definitely deserves a look (hopefully Best Buy will get it in next week). The only other features I could ask for are a USB host/camera connection (could be added w/ a firmware update?) and a removable battery. I'd imagine that both of these would be predominately listed if they existed since the marketing pitch is clearly designed to show the differentiators compared to the iPod.



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 02:31PM  

I believe all their players had a removable drive option. Basically its to load files via UMS when in this mode. They aren't playable though.


Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 02:32PM  

Something new coming in during the holidays could be really good timing for people looking for a new player and especialy for those who dislike ipods.



Bento

Comments: 103
 		Dec 08 (2005) 02:40PM  

The accessories look suspicously like those of the iPod. I guess the creative R&D department is called "The Apple Store."

They do offer bluetooth headphones, for those who are interested, on there listed as companion products.



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 02:42PM  

What's up with the shitty screen quality on the ipod next to the vivid display on the vision:m.





kineticarl

Comments: 31
 		Dec 08 (2005) 02:52PM  

If it's like the other zens, it'll have MTP transfer for playable files (vid/pics/tunes), but with a UMS capability (activated from within the player, before you connect it to your comp) for data or media you don't want to play. If you're running WinXP, MTP plays well with us drag 'n droppers.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 03:05PM  

ssjmichael: the screen on the ipod is probably far brighter than the creative. it cant be overexposure since both displays would be as white.



chicubs

Comments: 915
 		Dec 08 (2005) 03:46PM  

sounds nice but that strip just looks really weird. kinda offputting.



Robert Sinke

Comments: 1221
 		Dec 08 (2005) 03:50PM  

In a way, it reminds me of the Aldipod . But I think it's safe to bet that the V:M's gonna be a bit better than said ... thing.



sgt peppers
Location: Massachusetts
Comments: 14
 		Dec 08 (2005) 04:32PM  

anyone know if there will be in music suscription stores that will support videoo for the zen vision m:, similar to what itunes is to the video ipod?



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 04:35PM  

not that i have heard of yet, but that would surely give this player a HUGE boost. especially if the videos were in a higher resolution and quality than the itunes videos - but i think at present i'm dreaming of something that would either be expensive right now, or not available for a while.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 04:38PM  

sgt_peppers28:

yes, its right here: [Linky]



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 08 (2005) 04:44PM  

You're right undesign. Just as the majority of people with DAP's get their music illegally, the same will happen with people who get this player.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 08 (2005) 04:55PM  

its too bad so many torrent sites are being shut down. torrentspy is the only good one i know of. any other suggestions?



gstom1

Comments: 41
 		Dec 08 (2005) 05:07PM  

According to CNET's specs, there is no removable battery.

[Linky]


YpoCaramel

Comments: 169
 		Dec 08 (2005) 05:38PM  

Come to think of it, as long as it comes with charger and dock, it's a pretty sweet deal even at $330. I love my ipod w/ video 60, but having to charge ti from USB is a pain if u want to turn off your computer.



sgt peppers
Location: Massachusetts
Comments: 14
 		Dec 08 (2005) 06:00PM  

undesign:

any idea how much videos will cost and if their library selection is anywhere near itunes'.

i think choosing between the ipod vid and the vision m: will come down to their video subscription support



painkiller

Comments: 109
 		Dec 08 (2005) 06:12PM  

Geez, put it below $300 atleast.

No one's going to buy this for more than the video iPod, because they'll buy the video iPod instead.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Dec 08 (2005) 06:16PM  

It's a really nice effort by Creative and might steal some of the ipods thunder but i'm still waiting for a Sigmatel 3600 player.



3284lmm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Comments: 358
 		Dec 08 (2005) 06:20PM  

heres my music store: [Linky] and [Linky]


superpianist
Location: Montreal
Comments: 17
 		Dec 08 (2005) 07:03PM  

I was going to write that they gotta lower the price or nobody's gonna buy it, but maybe they can't. The 5g iPod is actually a pretty good deal at USD $300, considering its media capabilities, and Creative doesn't have Apple's bankroll. Still, though... it's too much money. Also, undesign? I mostly agree with your points, but bashing Apple like you do is ridiculous. Dumb fanboyism. I know you think "iPoo" is witty and edgy and hilarious, but it's lame. I'm not an iPod fan either but stop writing like an angry 15 year old.



egloskerry

Comments: 410
 		Dec 08 (2005) 09:02PM  

Lol matt, you have to be kidding me. We've been waiting for the original Zen Vision for months, and we still don't have it. This won't show up in stores until well after the holiday season.



Matt Random

Comments: 16
 		Dec 08 (2005) 09:10PM  

The stores around me don't seem to carry PMPs so I don't really expect to see the Zen Vision in a store. Didn't seem like the precursor did too well at the brick and mortar stores that carried it.

Best Buy has a good selection of Creative DAPs so I'm optimistic that this one will show up. I think I remember seeing a Creative kiosk in a local mall.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 09 (2005) 03:32AM  

hooah, follow around undesign some more. especially check out the fact that he bought a sony player. if thats not a steaming pile of hypocracy, i don't know what is. hes all for features and not being locked into anything, and he buys the player that locks him in the most with the least features.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 09 (2005) 05:23AM  

zip22: your still hung up about me buying the sony i returned after telling you my main and only priorities are: battery life, removable battery, size, and sound quality. i also told your dumb ass that im on a mac and i had feelings it wouldnt run on VPC, it was more of a test then anything.

shutup with the sony ordeal already, ive seen you bitch and moan worse than my ex girlfriends on PMS countless times.



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Dec 09 (2005) 11:31AM  

undesign , if i recall correctly you didnt know that sony dap had a removable battery until zip showed you



musicman

Comments: 336
 		Dec 10 (2005) 06:20AM  

So, everyone seems pretty taken with this new Creative player. How many of you have bought one?



ilh

Comments: 168
 		Dec 11 (2005) 08:42PM  

Flid...
Dixons, the future for less...
How come it took Dixons till October to get the Toshiba Gigabeat in when it came out in June? Some future that. Wouldn't bank on Dixons having it on release.



Flid

Comments: 262
 		Dec 12 (2005) 09:30AM  

Not normal Dixons. Heathrow DixonsTaxFree. I design WiFi networks for airports. The airside stores tend to get the latest (high profile) players as soon as they're released. I played with the Gigabeat somewhen in Summer.

I agree though.... normal Dixons is toss.



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