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Creative Gets Video Partners
comment: 27 | Sunday, December 11 (2005) 05:29PM | Posted by chicubs
We all know about the iPod's video store and partnership with ABC, but what was Creative's answer to this going to be? Were they going to bank on everyone having their video collection already on their computer?

The questions were partly answered by several announcements:

- The Zen Vision: M will support BBC's IMP service. It allows users (Uk people that it) to download past radio and television programs from the last week. The files will be in WMV DRM.

- Creative is also parterning with "7 Digital"
7 Digital, the UK’s biggest legal music and video download provider, has demonstrated the portability of its digital video download service at the launch of Creative’s latest portable media player, the Zen Vision:M today.

The new 7 Digital download service at [Linky] features DVD quality videos to download from a broad spectrum of media companies such as EMI, Sony BMG, Channel 5, Warner, Universal, V2, MTV and many others.


Videos start at 99p which about 1.73 dollars (?).


Thanks broadwayrock
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Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 11 (2005) 05:38PM  

Cool. I wonder how long it will be before places like Napster and Yahoo! Unlimited start video sectors in their download service. If creative really makes plans to set up a download service in N. America and gets channels like Fox and MTV then this thing will certainly sell.



aniym

Comments: 65
 		Dec 11 (2005) 05:49PM  

I'd rather that Creative not go for direct partnerships w/ american entertainment channels as they will know that Creative is looking to counter Apple, whatever it takes, and will gouge Creative for as high a price as they can get, because they also know that Creative will sell a tenth of the players that Apple will (if they're even that lucky), so the profit outlook for them will play a factor too. By focusing on a considerably smaller test market (the UK), Creative is wisely testing the waters, before coming up with a concrete plan, if any to bring similar services to the US.

I wish the BBC would open up their video vaults to non-UK citizens for a pay-per-download system, though. This would give them access to a much bigger market, and would encourage viewership of BBC America shows, especially stuff like the Office, Singles, and Peep Show. And that, of course, would enable anyone to have those shows available on the Zen Vision M. Which of course, would be great news for Creative.

I'm getting more and more excited about this player. I'm glad they didn't make it as thin as the Ipod. I think it was intentional on their part; this way, they've hopefully been able to put in better video capabilities, as well as retain Creative's trademark kick-ass sound quality.

Let's just hope that the headphone jack problem has been PERMANENTLY fixed this time. Creative seems to be spending serious money promoting this thing. There had better not be a design fuckup to ruin it for us.



ZaphodB
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Comments: 129
 		Dec 11 (2005) 05:51PM  

Wonder why Creative's so keen on targetting the UK market? Granted, the BBC thing is more a side-effect of the Vision:M's support for DRMed WMV files; anyone can play those files on any platform, so long as it supports the file type. But the 7 Digital thing...odd. Also remember that the flash site set up before the Vision:M's launch, the one which ripped off Apple's theatre invitations, was made and hosted by the UK division of Creative.

Has Creative given up on the North American market?



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 11 (2005) 05:56PM  

I don't think they have. They're just making partnerships over there right now, smiple as that.



branjo

Comments: 10
 		Dec 11 (2005) 06:11PM  

the photo layout looks exactly the same as the ipod's



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 11 (2005) 06:16PM  

It's like that on most photo-capable players actually.



Allen
Location: Dub Vee Ooo
Comments: 1511
 		Dec 11 (2005) 06:32PM  

So is this all still part of creatives war on apple?



3284lmm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Comments: 358
 		Dec 11 (2005) 07:08PM  

looks like it. I think most of the people who buy this player for video purposes probably aren't too interested in buying video for it anyways Caugh bittorrent Caugh, still it would be a nice bonus to have a couple online stores I'm not trying to generalize who i thnk the majority of the buyer will be. I'm just taking a wild stab...



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 11 (2005) 07:17PM  

It is Creative's job to provide legal ways for people to obtain videos though and this is their objective. I can't say whether this is them waging a war or just justifying their video player. They're doing a very good job so far and that's evident by the amount of news we are hearing about the player.



blackstar

Comments: 24
 		Dec 11 (2005) 08:05PM  

The Creative website for the USA lists:
-MLB.com
-CinemaNow
-MediaPass.net
-MSN Videos
-MTV
-TivoToGo
-VH1
-Comedy Central
-ABC Family
-ibiblio
-Intenet Archive Movie Archive


ilh

Comments: 168
 		Dec 11 (2005) 08:39PM  

All that's left is for them to stick Wi-Fi and a web browser effergy to get videos/music in the player.



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Dec 11 (2005) 08:58PM  

^ and some bluetooth action but that will have to wait for the next gen.



SowndOfDeth

Comments: 417
 		Dec 11 (2005) 09:05PM  

So movies from movielink, etc (which use WMV DRM) are playable on this player ? Thats getting to be interesting The movies on movielink are timed though, they can't be owned - I think.



HipHopScribe

Comments: 126
 		Dec 11 (2005) 10:58PM  

Not sure about Movielink, but it works with CinemaNow, though I prefer my downloaded video free.



enigman

Comments: 216
 		Dec 11 (2005) 10:59PM  

Seven days after the programme transmission date the programme file expires (using Digital Rights Management - DRM - software) and users will no longer be able to watch it. DRM also prevents users emailing the files to other computer users or sharing it via disc.


So, you have to watch your BBC's downloaded programme within 7 days.

When you purchase a track, our system will issue you a personal license enabling you to play the track on up to 3 computers as well as burn the track to CD and transfer to a compatible portable music player.


Ah, 3 coms and burnable for 7 Digital.



SowndOfDeth

Comments: 417
 		Dec 12 (2005) 12:20AM  

Are the podcasts on iTunes DRMed ? Just thinking if it was legal for someone to convert them. I am talking about the free ones (if there are paid ones ).



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 12 (2005) 12:31AM  

no their not.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Dec 12 (2005) 12:32AM  

they're*



egloskerry

Comments: 410
 		Dec 12 (2005) 02:21AM  

You know what? I think Apple is getting pwned in their portable video scheme. They didn't realise that other companies have a hell of a lot more experience than they do.



mightymouse

Comments: 11
 		Dec 12 (2005) 02:55AM  

branjo what other layout should the photo be... diamond like? swivelling? hologram? just because apple came up with the idea doesn't mean they own it, and plus its just like any one else would think.

props to creative for stepping up the competition.



SowndOfDeth

Comments: 417
 		Dec 12 (2005) 03:11AM  

Apple has to start supporting divx (think what would have happened to the ipod if it never played mp3) and other formats

&

really 'lock-in' content from the major studios and make it not available at other stores.

Now is a good time for netflix to start its downloadable video rental



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Dec 12 (2005) 03:25AM  

^the ipod will NEVER support divx.

if movie giants like MGM, Alliance, Paramount, etc noticed that apple would allow the iPod to use a pirate friendly format, it wouldnt get near to locking in on the monopoly in video like it does with MP3s. The movie industry favors the ipod for two reasons: its overblown popularity, and its LEGAL content.



SowndOfDeth

Comments: 417
 		Dec 12 (2005) 04:12AM  

Thats true, its tricky for Apple to start supporting divx after this. But then Apple marketing has never ceased to amaze me.

and Thanks zip22 ...



sti3

Comments: 12
 		Dec 12 (2005) 12:48PM  

Where's the URL on the creative site that tells what partners it has, blackstar?



blackstar

Comments: 24
 		Dec 12 (2005) 06:25PM  

On the page for the vision:M (not the flash page, the text one that you can find through the store) click on Fill your player now.



LoganT

Comments: 2
 		Dec 31 (2005) 08:54PM  

It's called bittorrent.



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Dec 31 (2005) 09:00PM  

ressurection



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