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MobiBlu DAH-1900 = B153
comment: 1 | Monday, January 23 (2006) 11:09AM | Posted by Robert Sinke
In an attempt to confuse us all, MobiBlu has nicknamed their DAH-1900 "B153". Now, "153" isn't a random number or anything - it's supposed to clarify the device's amazing (theoretical) battery life. The built-in li-ion battery, which can be recharged through USB, supposedly is up to the task of running for some 153 hours per charge.

Besides that, features like a built-in FM radio + (timed) recorder, line-in encoder and a voice recorder plus your average-day 4-line, 2 color OLED screen perk up the B513's specifications list. MSRPs fro Korea are 148.000 (145 USD), 188.000 (185 USD) and 238.000 (235 USD) Won for the 512MB, 1GB and 2GB editions respectively. Keep in mind that Korean price levels tend to be higher than those in America.

We think it might be a good sign that the B153 has also made it to the company's European site (as have the DHH-200 and DAH-1800, by the way), as far as "availability throughout the world" is concerned. No official release dates for the EU or N-America have been given (yet), as far as we know. We did find this news item, though

Also check out Popco's photo preview of the B153 (Korean) while you're at it.
Comments

Adam

Comments: 78
 		Jan 23 (2006) 11:18AM  

its on the american site:
[Linky]

just had to do a little digging



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2405
 		Jan 23 (2006) 11:20AM  

thats alota hours+very few recharges=travellers best friend !D



tonysunshine

Comments: 3
 		Jan 23 (2006) 11:32AM  

is it me for does this thing look a lot like the cowon G3



koppite1

Comments: 248
 		Jan 23 (2006) 12:06PM  

Bah!...the UK online store is "under construction"



Deano

Comments: 123
 		Jan 23 (2006) 12:20PM  

153 hours? Wow, that's one amazingly good battery in there. It peaks my interest as to how accurate that figure really is. It also begs the question as to why this sort of battery hasn't made it into other companies units either?

Maybe this is the start of a trend.



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 01:37PM  

Deano: its not the battery, its the chip inside (tho a large and strong battery also adds some benefits). The thing with this is that the chip inside has got to be very efficient and a very VERY low drain on batteries. Compare that to something like the ipod, most noticeable the shuffle, its embarassing (mainly because the shuffle has almost nothing going for it, not even a screen and it only lasts like 12 hours, which is pretty pathetic).

Id like to see the DAH-1900 in AA battery form, since AA rechargeables hold 1.6X more power (as in, a possibility of up to 240 hours per charge).



koppite1

Comments: 248
 		Jan 23 (2006) 02:01PM  

"Compare that to something like the ipod, most noticeable the shuffle, its embarassing (mainly because the shuffle has almost nothing going for it, not even a screen and it only lasts like 12 hours, which is pretty pathetic)"

Hmmm...good SQ supposedly Apple really epitomise corporate greed



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 02:03PM  

the shuffle is close to 1/4th the size, has a built in usb plug, supports more formats (including lossless), is cheaper, and has been available for almost a year.

i think you are confused, this player does not use a replaceable battery. you seem to think it uses AAA ("Id like to see the DAH-1900 in AA battery form, since AA rechargeables hold 1.6X more power"). it has a built in li-ion battery which probably holds significantly more than a rechargeable AA and is lighter. i am willing to bet the battery life has little to do with the chips used. they are most likely the same as the other mobiblu players. its just the large battery.

[Linky]



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 02:13PM  

zip, why do you always assume things? i said id like to see it in AA form, not that i think its using AAA batteries, ok? Stop trolling this website with your lies. And im willing to bet that it is the chipset, if you looked at Sonys chipsets, theyre all good, the HD5, an HD mp3 player, far smaller than any HD ipod, lasts nearly 40 hours on a removable. Which tells you something. If that doesnt, then go and take a look at their cigarette lighter style flash mp3 players, 50 hours on a single charge. Or the puck shaped ones, 70 hours per alkaline AAA.

As for your shuffle comment, you get what you pay for: its cheap, and its crap. And again, stop lying, the DAH-1900 supports mp3, wma, and OGG, three popular formats over apples 2 (which AAC is debatable in terms of popularity, i dont see many people using it).

Someonoe please edit Zip's post for obvious false claims.



syadasti

Comments: 24
 		Jan 23 (2006) 03:08PM  

$100 for 512MB $130 for 1GB

2GB not listed

[Linky]



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 03:21PM  

Syadasti: Awesome find!



pablo

Comments: 11
 		Jan 23 (2006) 03:24PM  

damn, the shuffle debate is so tired.



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2798
 		Jan 23 (2006) 03:52PM  

The Korean screens from different movies (like Sympathy for Lady Vengeance) makes for some strange background.



timmins

Comments: 270
 		Jan 23 (2006) 04:23PM  

I understand that sony chipsets may be good, but weren't those battery life figures only relevent when using sonys proprietary atrac format at 64 kbps.
undesign, how long does your player last when using mp3 format?



bruce

Comments: 2
 		Jan 23 (2006) 04:27PM  

^ no no no, its 105kbps that they achieved the 50 hours (or 70 in the case of them round things). its also true as i personally have a sony nw 407

and zip... ipod simply sucks compared to other players out there you friggin fanboy



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 04:36PM  

timmins: i think they were, i cant remember, but even so, 70 hours alone is very, VERY impressive, you should expect a minimum of 30 per AAA. dont take my word on it, as i dont remember the exact figures, but the sony flash mp3 players using both atrac and mp3 formats do give nice results.

a lot of my friends have the cigarette lighter one, and they all love it. its quite a nice player. im still lost though, if i had a PC i think id get a sony NW-HD5 since its size-capacity-battery life ratio is the best. But since im stuck on a mac, im limited to ipod (which doesnt impress me at all) and other UMS mp3 players, the only one that i like is the iAudio G3, my iAudio 5 isnt functionining properly. What really bothers me now is the Intel Mac switch/dilemma. I could get a PC and install OS X and continue to have my preferred OS, but the EFI enabled mobos from intel required to do this with future releases of OSX arent available yet (just preorder). Now, heres the other thing; Sigmatel. I really want to see flash players use the chip, apparantly its supposed to last 70 hours on mp3 playback using 1AAA. I want that.

Decisions, decisions....



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 04:42PM  

undesign, when you said "d like to see the DAH-1900 in AA battery form, since AA rechargeables hold 1.6X more power (as in, a possibility of up to 240 hours per charge)."

what were you thinking?



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 04:53PM  

the sony players have larger batteries, and more efficient screens. the efficiency of the chips doesn't have as much to do with it as you think.



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:00PM  

zip22: read the damn specs of the dah-1900, it uses a 1620mah battery, i have AA which are 2600mah, if you know your math, thats roughly 1.6X more power. again, stop trolling.



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:12PM  

cnet
28 hours nw-hd5
35.6 hours puck (AAA)

for comparisons sake, lets look at the puck. an AAA alkaline has 1250maH. the battery in the ipod shuffle has 220 maH and gets 15 hours. the shuffle would be the epitome of efficiency.

the regular ipod 4g had a 600mah battery and got 14 hours. the nw-hd5 had a 880mah battery and gets double, so it is more efficient, but i would guess that almost all of that is due to the different screen technology.

where do you see the 1620 mah spec? i dont see that on any of the sites listed, but i could be missing it.



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:17PM  

ah, its in the link in the old news item. im not sure how accurate that is, but either way, the efficiency of the chips has little to do with it. the major differences between these battery lives is the screens and the size of the battery.



undesign

Comments: 802
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:37PM  

zip22: you failed to mention that the shuffle does NOT have a screen to bog down its battery life times. until you found out exactly (or roughly) how much of a difference a screen makes, you really cant compare the two. more importantly, the shuffle is probably the most featureless mp3 player on the market (correct me if im wrong). for 220mah, i will admit sounds impressive....but its the most basic player, so its no surprise.



LiQuiD_FuSioN

Comments: 113
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:38PM  

How much power a player consumes is entirely depended upon the efficiency of it's chips and wiring in the inside.



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:47PM  

but comparing players like we are weighs much much more heavily on the size of the batteries and the screens they use.

if the battery in this is really 1620mah, my speculation would be actual battery life would be more like 63 hours. the dah-1500i had 7 hours for 180mah



zip22

Comments: 1817
 		Jan 23 (2006) 05:55PM  

all of the manufacturers are using similar chips and i am willing to bet they all are pretty well optimised for efficiency (it would be stupid not to put a lot of time into this). obviously, newer chips may improve this slightly, but it is not nearly enough to account for the differences. the screen types have huge impacts, as well as the obvious size of the battery.



chicubs

Comments: 915
 		Jan 23 (2006) 06:10PM  

both the dah-1800 and DHH-200 have also made the american site:

[Linky]

[Linky]



Allen
Location: Dub Vee Ooo
Comments: 1511
 		Jan 23 (2006) 06:35PM  

Yeah thats alot of hours...!D



egloskerry

Comments: 410
 		Jan 23 (2006) 07:47PM  

There is going to come a day when a new DAP comes out and Austin or Rob or one of the mods is like "the typical 600 hours battery life, nothing new"



Peacemaker636

Comments: 104
 		Jan 23 (2006) 07:49PM  

Ummm, I think something people have failed to mention is that the screen and backlight consume more power than the entire circuitry of the player. So, I think this new player has lots going for it. Bigger battery, OLED screen, more efficient circuitry (probably), and maybe the battery will be more efficient, but I think it really depends on the efficiency of the chip, backlight, and screen.



Keon

Comments: 11
 		Jan 24 (2006) 02:36AM  

You can't compare mAh to mAh while ignoring the voltage you stupid a$$ fanbois!



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2405
 		Jan 24 (2006) 04:55AM  

silly arguements....

this dap looks coolish, in an odd sort of way



Flid

Comments: 262
 		Jan 24 (2006) 06:47AM  

Comparatively large battery & OLED screen (ie. no backlight?) = long playback time. 'Nuff said.
Yay for 153hrs.



Melker63

Comments: 26
 		Apr 23 (2006) 03:41AM  

Undesign: "Id like to see the DAH-1900 in AA battery form, since AA rechargeables hold 1.6X more power (as in, a possibility of up to 240 hours per charge)."

I agree to that. Below a certain physical size any further miniaturization becomes pointless too me. A certain customer-segment understands that, and prefers the advantages of replaceable super-longlife AA:s. Too bad though that iRiver T10 (the only one left) comes with such an ugly and fucked up design. There are perhaps over 100+ minor MP3-manufactors fighting amongst themselves over the 10-15% leftover marketsegment (iPod having 85%) - all of them with the same stupid non-replaceable shortlife battery-concept as Apple. I say - dare to be different!



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