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iriver Clix is back in black w/ 4 GB
comment: 39 | Thursday, October 12 (2006) 03:05PM | Posted by Lone




There was a rumor blowing in the wind about iriver upgrading their Clix player with a new color and capacity, and it seems to be true. Swedish tech site Min Hembio managed to obtain a trio of what are clearly professional product shots of the new Clix in its black shell.

So yeah, we're still not sure of the availablilty or release date of the new Clix, but we're sure it looks quite classy.


LINK (Min Hembio) via iriver Nordic forums via 64bits

Thanks, breakdown
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dap_pad

Comments: 519
 		Oct 12 (2006) 03:23PM  

I personally like the 2GB Clix design better as it contrasted the black front, but this one doesn't look that bad as well. iRiver is a bit behind in terms of capacity, when will we see a 6 or 8GB Clix? In order to compete with it's competitors it should have at least what the competition is offering.



Breakdown

Comments: 228
 		Oct 12 (2006) 03:24PM  

someone at MisticRiver must be able to speak Norwegian because he said it will ship with Audible support. Also it would be available at the end of this month for 2,499.00 SEK which equals about 338.99 USD though since it is Europe that is an exaggerated price for North America. (if it does ship to us)

I'd just like to say I am disappointed that iriver made the front glossy, but not the back. Gloss only has negatives like smudging, easier to scratch, harder to use in the sun (have to turn the brightness up to be semi-usable), and lowers the color accuracy.



mdscriber3

Comments: 54
 		Oct 12 (2006) 03:29PM  

Great! I'm in the process of selling two iPods just in time ... I was either going with the 2GB Clix or the Sansa Rhapsody (leaning towards Clix because of interface, SQ and price). I may not hold out, though, to wait for the 4GB plus I have a feeling it might be really expensive, at least initially. Great that they are upping the capacity, though ... finally! Pam



4vo

Comments: 160
 		Oct 12 (2006) 03:35PM  

AWESOME!

I think the black looks great. Though I must detach from Breakdown's assessment of glossy on two points--I feel that certain glossy surfaces (as demonstrated by the Zen V) are resistant to scratching, and certain types of glossiness improve color depth and vibrance. Though I do agree on smudging and the scratching of the majority of glossy faces.



dap_pad

Comments: 519
 		Oct 12 (2006) 04:38PM  

Actually some glossy screen improve image quality... that's why some laptops use glossy screens for multimedia laptops...

But to an extent, smudging, fingerprints and scratching are usually side effects LOL But the Clix looks great either way and it adds to it's design IMO.



LineWeapon

Comments: 4
 		Oct 12 (2006) 04:38PM  

I'm pretty sure the screen part of a dap would have to be glossy.

It's great that it has 4gb now, but it makes it harder for me to decide between this and the meizu m6 miniplayer. but i heard that the miniplayer is also upping the capacity. so i will still be waiting for it.



Breakdown

Comments: 228
 		Oct 12 (2006) 04:42PM  

okay so if gloss really does improve the color then I wont be so hard on it in the future.



YpoCaramel

Comments: 169
 		Oct 12 (2006) 05:30PM  

Tom's Hardware actually argues that glossy screens do not improve quality. Based on my experience with glossy screen laptop, I'd tend to agree - in actual usage, the colors look just the same. In display showrooms they do look a bit better though.

Still, a 8gb Clix would be sweet. 4GB is still kind - say, not quite enough?



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Oct 12 (2006) 05:33PM  

^^^ditto that (1st paragraph)



dap_pad

Comments: 519
 		Oct 12 (2006) 06:04PM  

LOL well ^^^ ditto that (2nd paragraph) 4GB just isn't enough now...



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Oct 12 (2006) 06:36PM  

It's definitely a good move. I think 4GB is still more than enough for the mainstream conumer looking for just a flash player. The move to 8GB is just happening so now many people (aside from us enthusiasts) have a true desire for that yet. I definitely want to see them come out with higher capacities. I'd even accept a HD version of the clix with a 4" screen. That'd be sweet.



painkiller

Comments: 109
 		Oct 12 (2006) 07:07PM  

I'm hoping for a $200 pricetag



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Oct 12 (2006) 07:11PM  


chicubs

Comments: 915
 		Oct 12 (2006) 07:24PM  

darn just as i spent a bunch of money.



Design Fabulous

Comments: 1038
 		Oct 12 (2006) 08:30PM  

Cool... The black looks really nice. But the capacity should have been made to 8GB by now,



hugged2death

Comments: 16
 		Oct 12 (2006) 08:30PM  

Well it is better than 2 gigs right? Most likely 199.99 for Americans (hence the price drop of the 2 gig clix)



dap_pad

Comments: 519
 		Oct 12 (2006) 10:06PM  

LOL well since the iPod now goes to 8GBs many "average joe" consumers may view that as a standard so that's why i think 8GBs should be implemented as well...



yoghurtaddict

Comments: 15
 		Oct 12 (2006) 10:30PM  

Wondering whether they could get a competitive price for 8gb though. I would expect the 4GB to be $200 in the U.S. Especially if you watch this video.

[Linky]

They say about half way in there that $200 and under is their ideal price range.

If you go much higher you start competing with hard drive players anyways. Tough sell.



Lacene
Location: Standing Here, Confused By Your
Comments: 827
 		Oct 12 (2006) 11:59PM  

I don't think that 8GB flash should be considered a standard now just because 2 flash DAP's have it, and a third is going to have it in the near future.....considering all the hundreds of flash DAP's out there.

8GB, even 6GB, is the high-end of the flash market.......4GB flash is a good middle ground right now, and I think the minimum storage size for any flash DAP that supports video playback, and has top-line color video screens.

once 2 or 3 more flash DAP's start showing up with 8GB's, then we can start considering 8GB to be a nominal capacity......



bloodycape

Comments: 705
 		Oct 13 (2006) 12:15AM  

Well at least they can do 6gb that be fair I think.



timmins

Comments: 270
 		Oct 13 (2006) 12:36AM  

when are those bastards at sumsung gonna stop bleeding us dry, and just release a 32 Gig flash player. THEY CAN DO IT, they just want to create artificial advancement, so we'll be forced to upgrade.

If a 32 Gig flash player came along, I wouldn't need to upgrade at all.



bloodycape

Comments: 705
 		Oct 13 (2006) 01:15AM  

Sony is using 16gb flash as an option in the UX series devices. They can maybe use that in their mp3 player.
[ edited Oct 13 (2006) 01:16AM ]



bloodycape

Comments: 705
 		Oct 13 (2006) 02:02AM  

Oh and Samsung has a laptop out with I think 32gigs of flash out in Japan and Korea.



4vo

Comments: 160
 		Oct 13 (2006) 04:09AM  

6GB or 8GB of flash is prohibitively expensive for most companies unless they struck a deal (Apple and Samsung IIRC) or manufacture their own memory (Sandisk).



Thebassness
Location: In a crappy little place called duluth,ga
Comments: 168
 		Oct 13 (2006) 06:27AM  

Yay yay yay frickin yay! oh wait i have my zvm....damn.



nocomp

Comments: 78
 		Oct 13 (2006) 10:30AM  

PLEEEEEASE iRIVER - we need a 30GB/60GB Clix!!!



All other specs like the original Clix.
Thanks in advance iRIVER!



sdsdv10

Comments: 243
 		Oct 13 (2006) 12:33PM  

when are those bastards at sumsung gonna stop bleeding us dry, and just release a 32 Gig flash player. THEY CAN DO IT, they just want to create artificial advancement, so we'll be forced to upgrade.

If a 32 Gig flash player came along, I wouldn't need to upgrade at all.


timmins, here is an article over at Daily Tech about new laptops using 16GB abd 32GB flash harddrives. They add $700 and $1400 respectively to the normal price of the laptop. [Linky] Be sure to check out the video link at the end of the news items. It compares the boot time of a SSD to a regular hard drive. Very nice. !amazed

Sure someone could manufacture one, but who is going to purchase a >$1500 DAP? You.... No, I didn't think so. They will come when the price finally drops to a reasonable level. One year, two years... who knows? In the bigger scheme of things it won't be too long.
[ edited Oct 13 (2006) 12:35PM ]



enCORe_XTG

Comments: 317
 		Oct 13 (2006) 12:44PM  

whats the point make it more bigger size if they play choppy framerate ? it does play 15fps right ?

The rip-off version of Clix somehow offer at least 30fps for smooth playback.. ..made from ipod city



bloodycape

Comments: 705
 		Oct 13 (2006) 12:48PM  

Well once 64gb and larger come out in 2007 as rumored then we may see prices for 12gigs, and 16gigs go down. And that is when I might buy but, I have 14gigs of music alone and I still haven't loaded a few CD and there is more coming out so I need at least 32 to be happy. Then I may look into an black iRiver clicks for purchase.



Breakdown

Comments: 228
 		Oct 13 (2006) 01:01PM  

I would never buy a newer clix from iriver if they ever did make one that went above 8GB flash. Anything above that and it isn't great for navigation.

encore 15fps is not choppy. It is as smooth as television. But there is a bigger problem than that and there are columns that go across the screen when playing which I think is a side effect of the 15fps.



YpoCaramel

Comments: 169
 		Oct 13 (2006) 02:19PM  

"6GB or 8GB of flash is prohibitively expensive for most companies unless they struck a deal (Apple and Samsung IIRC) or manufacture their own memory (Sandisk)."

That does seem to be the unfortunate truth, but I wonder how Creative came out with that 8GB flash player?



timmins

Comments: 270
 		Oct 13 (2006) 02:43PM  

@sdsdv10, fair enough maybe I'm being a lttle optimistic. I guess I'm just jaded by these companies thanks to their price fixing effort from 99-02.

[Linky]

[ edited Oct 13 (2006) 03:09PM ]



Allen
Location: Dub Vee Ooo
Comments: 1511
 		Oct 13 (2006) 03:17PM  

Oh yeah... a 60 gig clix....



enCORe_XTG

Comments: 317
 		Oct 13 (2006) 05:57PM  

uuhm... Breakdown,
Clix has great features, but most PMP mean for video playback, should it be play with nice quality, at the right bitrate & resolution ?

Most of my collective vids is 24/29fps, 15fps video is very noticeable.




Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Oct 13 (2006) 07:52PM  

yes, 15fps is not "as smooth as television"



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Oct 13 (2006) 09:08PM  

On a 2.2" screen the difference is hardly noticeable. I wsa doubtful too, till I actuallly played some videos on the player. The videos I showed don't really do the playback quality justice.
[ edited Oct 13 (2006) 09:09PM ]



Dominic
Location: Ireland.
Comments: 2396
 		Oct 13 (2006) 09:11PM  

i'd notice it though, which is all, that matters to me.

[ edited Oct 13 (2006) 09:12PM ]



dap_pad

Comments: 519
 		Oct 13 (2006) 11:07PM  

well even though it's only 2 DAPs with 8GBs it soon should be a industry standard but i'm not demanding it... i just think they should at least be considering it.

While 32GB flash is possible and has been implemented in about 3 laptop there is about a $700 premium for them right now and this is WAY over budget for anyone looking for a DAP...

oh.. and the Sony UX series is offering 32GB of flash as well...



timmins

Comments: 270
 		Oct 14 (2006) 02:03AM  

coorection, supposedly there is a $1400 premium on 32 Gigs, 700 for 16.



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