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Sony Officially Announces the NW-A810 series
comment: 35 | Thursday, March 01 (2007) 04:59AM | Posted by Michael
We recently reported on some leaked info for Sony's upcoming video player, the NW-A800 series. Today that player has been officially announced. This is Sony's first serious attempt at releasing a color screen DAP, and one with video playback to boot. Though it's arriving late to the game, the NW-A810 still offers a respectable feature-set, including support for H.264, AAC, and 30 hours of battery life:



Features

  • Capacity: 2, 4, and 8GB's
  • Display: 2.0" QVGA LCD (240x320). Can be used horizontally & vertically
  • Audio: MP3, ATRAC, WMA (non-DRM), AAC (non-DRM)
  • Video: MPEG-4 and AVC Baseline (aka H.264) at 30fps
  • Battery Life: 30 hours for audio, 8 hours for video
  • Dimensions (LxWxD: 88.0mm x 43.8.0mm x 9.1mm
  • Colors: Black, White, Pink, and Violet


Interface



From the few screens I've seen of the interface I'm fairly pleased. I've always been a fan of the white text on black background that Sony has used in their past few players. I like the use of icons in the main menu, as well as the nice layout for the now playing screen.

One aspect I thought Sony planned to improve was the naming of their players. A couple of their older players went from odd alpha-numeric names to simpler ones like the Bean, Circ and Core. I think giving the player a real name makes it more accessible to the consumer and makes it look like more of a competitor against the iPod nano and others.

You can pre-order the NW-A808 (8GB) from Sony's EU site for £ 199.99 (VAT included). This roughly converts to a price of $392US. That sounds like a pretty hefty price tag but keep in mind most players retail for a higher price over there. For instance the 8GB iPod Nano retails for £169.00 or roughly $331US. I imagine we'll see a considerably lower price when this arrives in N. America.

Product page (via, GenMP3) + Demo page

Thanks indeego
Comments

undesign

Comments: 786
Mar 01 (2007) 05:40AM  

blue one, as in the original photos from before, looks disguisting imo.

however, the white one looks DEAD SEXY. the pink, eventhough it looks queer, is actually quite nice, i like the pastel color, they should add more (like pastel green?)

I like these, VERY VERY nice.

Any word on the battery type and if its removable?




Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
Mar 01 (2007) 06:59AM  

I believe it's a built-in Lithium-ion battery




Ricardo Dawkins

Comments: 380
Mar 01 (2007) 10:19AM  

looks good...




LiQuiD_FuSioN

Comments: 111
Mar 01 (2007) 11:48AM  

So, is it just plain easier to turn it on its side to view videos/pictures?

I know the Zune is like this already.




sp303

Comments: 12
Mar 01 (2007) 12:23PM  

Overpriced out-dated and badly named. This will do as badly as everything else they have released over here in the UK. Are they really that dumb in their marketing department?




STUGE

Comments: 2
Mar 01 (2007) 01:07PM  

Great!Specification doesn't look bad at all:)




Utew
Location: Oregon USA
Comments: 351
Mar 01 (2007) 01:12PM  

I agree with sp303, this is an astonishingly weak effort by Sony to "catch up".. other than a decent interface and quite good battery life.. what exactly does this offer that is innovative and desirable?




Allen
Location: Dub Vee Ooo
Comments: 1511
Mar 01 (2007) 01:22PM  

I wonder if that 30 hours of audio playback is achieved with ATRAC.....




Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
Mar 01 (2007) 01:59PM  

Utew, I feel like there isn't a whole lot of room for innovation though. Everyone wants something groundbreaking, but what does that mean? Bluetooth? open-source codecs? Games? Wi-Fi?

I don't know of too many flash players (if any at all) that support h.264 video but I'd say that's a desirable codec. Not that there's a lot of reason to have such high quality video on a small screen. Comparing this flash player to a lot of the players from companies at the top though (nano, zen v plus, sansa e200, etc..), I'd have to say it's a decent effort.


[ edited Mar 01 (2007) 02:00PM ]




Flid

Comments: 262
Mar 01 (2007) 02:38PM  

Despite it's pricetag, it still looks cheap to me. It looks like an Archos XS100.
The blue and the pink are hideous shades as well (again, IMO). Battery life is potentially a good thing, the Sony quickcharge is great, and the screen size is definitely nice for a flash dap... but I still don't think this is worthy of the pricetag. I just don't see people buying this (as with most other overpriced Sony DAPs).




bloodycape

Comments: 705
Mar 01 (2007) 03:13PM  

It looks nice for what is, and it is flash so that is a right step for sony I guess. However, I would have like to seen at least an FM radio, and divx support. Maybe sony can get their act together in the future and might become number 2 in the market.




pecker

Comments: 501
Mar 01 (2007) 03:15PM  

sp303 y is it outdated??

Good battery life
Good memory
Nice design (not nice colour in blue)
Decent codecs
probz great sound quality
NEW phone style GUI
Multi positioning screen

But its all down to oppion and i feel that its over priced but not outdated


[ edited Mar 01 (2007) 03:17PM ]




sp303

Comments: 12
Mar 01 (2007) 03:45PM  

Im not saying its a bad player, just that its too little too late. Its outdated cause they should have released this a year or more ago. They have missed out on getting a good hold on the flash memory market. So Apple just eat it all up and consumers lap it up. Those who have two braincells and shop around will have found other players with similar specs already and for a great deal cheaper a price. Sony really should have tagged these better with the walkman brand but alas they'll probably end up in a small cabinet with all the other daps behind the huge iPod displays.




bloodycape

Comments: 705
Mar 01 (2007) 04:01PM  

a year ago there were no 8gig flah players on the market. There however was 6gig out but I doubt Sandisk is the one supplying sony with the memeory. But if you think about it a year ago Sony had 16gig of flash memory in their UMPC device and they now have 32gig of flash in the updated model being sold here in North America. So you could say sony is behind, but then again you could say Apple, and the rest are behind since sony is using 32gig of solid state flash memory in a portable device.




hobo

Comments: 80
Mar 01 (2007) 05:11PM  

Despite it's pricetag, it still looks cheap to me. It looks like an Archos XS100.
.


It does look like this as well






pecker

Comments: 501
Mar 01 (2007) 05:18PM  

so you dont mean its out dated you mean it iswith the times, but for it to have been a success it needed to be released sooner??




sp303

Comments: 12
Mar 01 (2007) 05:42PM  

Yeah thats what I mean, released when the nano was out. If this came out when the second gen nano was released it could have done a lot better I think. Now there too much else out already for it to make that much of an impact. We shall see but I just cant see it selling well.




Hari Iyer

Comments: 87
Mar 01 (2007) 05:54PM  

fucking great man! Wont do well at all in the market...but im def interested in returning my nano and buyin one of these!




jbhitter24

Comments: 351
Mar 01 (2007) 06:58PM  

And now with Flip 3D!.

lol. kindof looks like it in that little interface picture with all the windows.




Will

Comments: 75
Mar 01 (2007) 08:15PM  

Only works with SoundStage...




HipHopScribe

Comments: 126
Mar 01 (2007) 08:33PM  

The design sucks.




Utew
Location: Oregon USA
Comments: 351
Mar 01 (2007) 11:15PM  

Michael, Let me clarify a bit here..

The design is un-inspiring at best, perhaps the controls will turn out to be logical in real-life.. but basically it's in the SE cell phone styling camp, which could be a very good thing, if they had based it on the new SE w880i [Linky] , controls et al.

Codec support is nice, battery life is nice.. but the design is not up to Sony's delicious styling standards (not that everyone liked their previous effort, but I did).

In the end it isn't different enough to draw big notice.. I'd rather have a Cowon or iRiver player.

..and I am a Sony fan from way back....




Scarpad

Comments: 65
Mar 02 (2007) 02:07PM  

Sony really likes that PSP Interface they use it on everything.




Scarpad

Comments: 65
Mar 02 (2007) 02:10PM  

The only benefit H264 has on a portable is it saves on Space, important on a Flash Player I guess, but it takes way to long to encode. I'll stick with my Cowon D2, I can have the same amount of Space and swap out cards to carry more.




Digitalbath83

Comments: 87
Mar 02 (2007) 02:20PM  

The white one is very sexy. But No gapless and sonic stage means I won't be buying this. The D2 will be getting my money.




pecker

Comments: 501
Mar 02 (2007) 02:20PM  

It may not be as dear as it seems. As it looks like the sony comes with the £30 headphones as standard [Linky] god the white one looks nice in that pic!!
[ edited Mar 02 (2007) 02:22PM ]




sdsdv10

Comments: 243
Mar 02 (2007) 08:53PM  

Michael, I would agree with Utew in terms of design. For much better efforts regarding innovative looking products in the last year or so, see the Clix, Clix2, M6 Miniplayer, Samsung K5, K3 and T9. There are probably others. All the electronic innovation, enhanced features in the world won't make of for a crappy looking player. Which in my opinion, this item from Sony is...

I think the Sony "Lipstick" DAP in the other news item is a much better effort.




b

Comments: 5
Mar 02 (2007) 09:23PM  

Digitalbath83, i'm pretty sure it will have gapless, Sony players are known to have the only few gapless players in the market but very few people take notice and/or acknowledge it. Even my NW-HD1 has gapless.




Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
Mar 02 (2007) 10:27PM  

I'm surprised you put looks ahead of features when it comes to defining innovation. The Rio Karma and Trekstor Vibez for instance aren't the prettiest looking players but they offer more innovation than other players. I'd take what's inside over outside any day of the week.

Note that I'm not saying this player is innovative. I'm simply inquiring what was needed in order for a player to be looked at as being innovative from your p.o.v.. I guess I just didn't expect the answers to be mostly aesthetically based

[ edited Mar 02 (2007) 10:59PM ]




Utew
Location: Oregon USA
Comments: 351
Mar 03 (2007) 01:08AM  

Michael,

Sure I'd agree.. the specs matter most... I think the majority of DAPreview readers would agree with that.

However Sony has always been a design-hound, they have been at the design/aesthetics forefront for nearly as long as they have been around and many decisions to buy Sony products are based on styling, in great part... Samsung, LG and iRiver follow in those self-same footsteps.

Let's face it, a beautiful design is preferable to something dull and stodgy. My "innovative" comment was indeed, directed at styling (or lack thereof) and shouldn't be surprising when it comes to commenting on Sony products, when that tends to be a focus of their devices to begin with.

We could debate whether the DAP/PMP market is heading towards maturity, I'd say not quite there yet, but we're closing in. Design tends to be one of the major ways a company has to differentiate themselves from the competition in a maturing market and IMO, this isn't their best effort.
[ edited Mar 03 (2007) 01:09AM ]




zip22

Comments: 1809
Mar 03 (2007) 02:42AM  

b wrote ...
Digitalbath83, i'm pretty sure it will have gapless, Sony players are known to have the only few gapless players in the market but very few people take notice and/or acknowledge it. Even my NW-HD1 has gapless.


the reason most people don't take notice is because they are only gapless when you use sony's proprietary format. fyi, the ipod and the ipod nano are gapless.




b

Comments: 5
Mar 03 (2007) 12:12PM  

the reason most people don't take notice is because they are only gapless when you use sony's proprietary format. fyi, the ipod and the ipod nano are gapless.


Yeah, i'd forgotten to point that out, the proprietary format thing. My HD1 is gapless no matter what though, because it only plays Atrac It's not so bad once you've had to for about 2-3 years.

And note, i didn't mean to say other DAPs didn't have gapless and only Sony did, i know the new ipods are gapless, what i tried to say was that they are, among other very few players, in the market to utilize gapless, regardless of the audio format. I think the fault was on my behalf.
[ edited Mar 03 (2007) 12:19PM ]




Will

Comments: 75
Mar 03 (2007) 07:42PM  

Zip wrote ...

the reason most people don't take notice is because they are only gapless when you use sony's proprietary format. fyi, the ipod and the ipod nano are gapless.

Which is because MP3 as-is doesn't support Gapless, in contrast to ATRAC (and Vorbis, btw). As far as I know, AAC neither supports it, so the iPod bypasses this limitation by some software tricks.




zip22

Comments: 1809
Mar 04 (2007) 12:31AM  

nothing is preventing sony from utilizing similar software tricks.




micha10589

Comments: 5
Mar 04 (2007) 10:11AM  

@undesign: "the pink looks queer" - you're a homophobic asshole. And since you like those players - you also have no taste.




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