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More info on the Meizu M7
comment: 35 | Wednesday, September 19 (2007) 08:57PM | Posted by Michael
Well it looks like that rumored M7 we reported on a few days ago just got closer to becoming a reality. After showing off that poorly made mockup, Meizu CEO, J. Wong has provided a vastly improved image of the player. If the M8 is Meizu's answer to the iPhone, then the M7 is no doubt their answer to the iPod touch. Here are some rumored specs for the M7:

Meizu M7 Specs:

  • Capacity: 2, 4, and 8GB
  • 2.81" Touchscreen display (480 X 288, 15:9 aspect ratio, and 16 million colors)
  • H.264 at 720 X 480 pixels (30fps)
  • Dimensions: 89 x 48 X 7.3 mm
  • TV out
  • €70, €80 and €110 respectively
If that pricing is correct, then sign me up for one. We'll update you as soon as J. Wong releases more info.

LINK (via, PMP Today)

Thanks to all that sent this in!
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udauda
Location: the Golden State California
Comments: 61
 		Sep 19 (2007) 09:15PM  

Nasty... Thatz all I can say about this all-in-one ripoff. I jst hope this shameless company'd be eliminated from the DAP industry.

BTW, why doesn't HAIER hop it? I bet they would be much more creative than these guys...



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Sep 19 (2007) 09:25PM  

Why all touch? Why does it need such an inferior system? Actual tactile buttons are so much better....i mean, i know most manufacturers will follow apple like blind sheep because they think apple sets the stage, but not on this one....so why the hell does it need a touch interface? Its miserable, try an iphone and drive yourself nuts.



rockinamigo14

Comments: 188
 		Sep 19 (2007) 09:52PM  

if it has better video codec support and the same SQ as the other meizu players, it may be interesting.



TOMREM!X

Comments: 56
 		Sep 19 (2007) 10:54PM  

How do they get away with clearly ripping off ideas?



Cacophony

Comments: 36
 		Sep 19 (2007) 11:06PM  

wrote ...
Why all touch?

I think the system is more flexible as it can be reprogrammed or extended without changing the hardware. What puzzles me is that anytime a player has a glossy surface, there is always a mention in the "Cons" side that it is a finger print magnet.

With iPod touch, people have to leave their finger print everywhere on the screen and, strangely enough, they say WoW and no one remember the finger print magnet issue.

The next iPod generation will come with a built in toilet paper holder. I bet you everybody will say WoW.



Breakdown

Comments: 228
 		Sep 19 (2007) 11:42PM  

I like a touchscreen best for navigating. Volume, power, a hold switch, and a smart key should always be tactile.

[ edited Sep 19 (2007) 11:42PM ]



eric113

Comments: 9
 		Sep 20 (2007) 01:56AM  

They should be ashamed and never think about selling that rip-off player abroad. Don't they have any knowledge of Intellectual property?



kadajawi

Comments: 51
 		Sep 20 (2007) 05:15AM  

Intellectual what? Wait a second. Remember what Apple took from Xerox? Stealing the idea of a GUI is somehow something bigger than doing a player that is similar in some ways to another one. The timing is a bit suspicious, but other than that...



Kikkoman

Comments: 38
 		Sep 20 (2007) 05:05PM  

apple did not steal from xerox. they paid for what they got.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 20 (2007) 06:24PM  

Shame kadajawi! Apple didn't steal from Xerox!!!!


- they stole from CREATIVE



delerium

Comments: 33
 		Sep 20 (2007) 11:33PM  

Hahahaha.... shameless.
[Linky]
[ edited Sep 21 (2007) 12:12AM ]



Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2786
 		Sep 21 (2007) 03:25AM  

truly, lol



Mr_Anderson

Comments: 43
 		Sep 21 (2007) 04:46AM  

Apple have paid for what they stole,has Meizu be ready for this?


[ edited Sep 21 (2007) 05:02AM ]



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 21 (2007) 06:36AM  

Apple have paid for what they stole,has Meizu be ready for this?

They paid because they were forced to, due to the legal jurisdiction they live within, if they lived within another legal jurisdiction, as does Meizu, there is every reason to believe they wouldn't have paid, based on their own actions. They stole it in the first place, which demonstrated their clear intention of not paying for it, it was only under legal compulsion that they were forced to pay. Absent that legal complulsion, they would not have paid.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 21 (2007) 11:03AM  

apple used the same menu structure as creative. creative got the patent for a pretty logical organization structure and apple settled with them out of court for a one time fee. meizu blatantly rips off every single aspect of players. it is not just an underlying menu hierarchy, it is nearly every visual aspect that they attempt to replicate some part of another player. i honestly do not believe apple's use of the menu structure was a blatant attempt to copy creative, i think it was 2 companies that arrived at the most logical way to organize music and one just got there before the other. meizus business model is absolutely nothing like that.
[ edited Sep 21 (2007) 11:05AM ]



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 21 (2007) 12:07PM  

I don't think the M6 was an Apple ripoff at all. Virtually the only thing it had in common with any Apple product was a white front and a shiny metal back, it was better than anything Apple made up to that point, and even now in many ways, although Meizu's firmware updates are a joke and I don't consider them the good company I thought they were in the beginning. Any company that lets bugs like the ones in the M6 go unaddressed just can't be taken seriously in my opinion.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 21 (2007) 12:25PM  

chrome back, white and black front with transparent glossy coating - they were clearly attempting to replicate apple's aesthetic. the background was nearly identical to that of apple's os.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 21 (2007) 03:33PM  

Chrome, white, black, shiny, blue. Wow, I had no idea the geniuses at Apple have given the world so much. No wonder everyone loves them.



Breakdown

Comments: 228
 		Sep 21 (2007) 05:44PM  

I think Meizu does copy Apple and they aren't even that great to begin with. Aluminum backing? Glossy front? Minuscule hold key?



delerium

Comments: 33
 		Sep 21 (2007) 05:46PM  

Wow Steve. Your ignorance/delusion shows through yet again.

It's not the pieces, but the total combination. Chrome back plate, grey "interfacing" mechanism (clickwheel, touchpad), white/clear "doubleshot" finish. Yes, Apple didn't invent these, but they were the first to put them together in the way they did.
How can you honestly deny that Meizu didn't take their inspiration for the M6 from G1 nano?

Atleast with the M6, they incorporated their own elements and designs to the base copy. Their new players (M7, M8) just seem more blatant, especially in the UI.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 21 (2007) 07:05PM  

Why is it that style is considered so proprietary and is so jealously defended with daps and not with any other consumer electronics product? Digital cameras, laptops, cell phones, pda's, and before them walkman's, portable cd players, and on and on, in every category there has always been an almost indistinguishable resemblance among devices of a single type, yet with daps people look at every line, button placement, color choice, every size down to the fraction of a millmeter, every surface texture, for some way to claim exclusivity and priority and level criticism and derision upon the competition, and yet in pointing it out i'm accused of ignorance and delusion...Well excuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeee!!



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 22 (2007) 12:14AM  

you spend your time on DAP boards. the copy cats in each field are called out by their respective interest groups and the same aspects you mentioned are examined and compared.

you really have been a bit overboard recently with your apple hating. have the new models affected you negatively?
[ edited Sep 22 (2007) 12:15AM ]



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 22 (2007) 01:56AM  

you really have been a bit overboard recently with your apple hating. have the new models affected you negatively?

Affect me? Negatively? Surely you're mistaken. BTW, you do realize, don't you, that at this very moment there exists a parallel universe, in no way less real than this one, in which the ipod holds not quite 1% of the market? Fascinating.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Sep 22 (2007) 04:28PM  

you spend your time on DAP boards. the copy cats in each field are called out by their respective interest groups and the same aspects you mentioned are examined and compared.


Im on forums that deal with photography and cameras. The resemblance between Canon and Nikon would slap you in the face the same way as this so called 'resemblance' you claim between apple and meizu, but nobody moans about such useless arguments. Its the quality of the product that matters, you zip, of all people on this website/blog would know that very well.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 22 (2007) 06:11PM  

are you claiming that people never talk about button placement, size, or surface texture when comparing models? besides, nikon and canon are the front runners (i believe). if some chinese company made a camera that looked as similar as the meizu looks to an ipod, plenty of people would be crying foul.



kickenchicken

Comments: 59
 		Sep 23 (2007) 03:28PM  

has anyone noticed that, When Meizu releases a Clone, it TURNS out to be LOADS better?
surely noone is angered about this? Please, like Apple hasnt been caught stealing ideas from others. though, i do agree, Meizu did go a little to far with this one.



undesign

Comments: 786
 		Sep 23 (2007) 03:33PM  

are you claiming that people never talk about button placement, size, or surface texture when comparing models? besides, nikon and canon are the front runners (i believe). if some chinese company made a camera that looked as similar as the meizu looks to an ipod, plenty of people would be crying foul.


No zip, im not claiming, im TELLING. Your reading comprehension sucks. Nikon and Canon, as well as any other camera manufacturer all have basically the same physical appearance. Are you having trouble noticing the similarities?



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 23 (2007) 04:12PM  

Actually, with digital cameras people are usually outraged when a particular button is not in the same place, when the overall dimensions are very different, essentially, when things don't
look like everything else and stray too far from the norms and standards the industry has come to expect. People don't generally focus on the cosmetics at all, unless, as I said, they stray from established norms. Instead people focus on features, performance, and specifications. How strange.



eric113

Comments: 9
 		Sep 23 (2007) 05:06PM  

Chinese people...stop defending this or changing the subject to Apple copying others. This article is not about apple copying right? You guys need to take blame and try to learn. Stop being so ignorant.



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 23 (2007) 06:04PM  

steve, why are we limiting the discussion to pro-sumer level cameras? all of the consumer level cameras have different designs, textures, colors, features.

if there was one company that lead the industry as apple does and a chinese company came in with a camera that every sane person believed looked like a ripoff, they would be called out for it. getting back to the original argument which you have so deftly avoided, you are foolish in thinking that meizu doesn't copy designs from apple. even people who hate apple can recognize their intent.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 23 (2007) 06:22PM  

My argument is not that Meizu doesn't copy Apple, it's that it is essentially irrelevant. They are still two different products with differing features, functions, and performance. One or the other product will suit a particular person more than the other. I personally don't care if a product has the same shape, color, or button layout as another product. I care about how it performs relative to its stated or desired purpose. Are you implying that Apple has nothing to recommend it other than looks?



Pondlife

Comments: 507
 		Sep 23 (2007) 07:01PM  

All this arguing for something that isn't even due out for 6 months.

Besides isn't it up to apple to do something about it if it's a problem?



delerium

Comments: 33
 		Sep 23 (2007) 07:07PM  

I can recommend Apple because it's actually available, unlike the Meizu. *cough* Where's the M8? *cough*
It's easy for a company like Meizu to rip off something that IS currently available, steal some design elements, make up some photoshopped renderings, add some "features" to their virtual spec sheet, and come up with an arbitrary low price. For them to actually deliver is another thing. I might remind you that there still isn't a working prototype for the elusive M8, despite their announcement in February after the iPhone announcement. So the way I see it, Meizu has talented graphic artists/copiers, rather than competent and original industrial designers.

Side-by-side:
[Linky]
I wonder if they can actually duplicate the interface beyond copying it photoshop.
[ edited Sep 23 (2007) 07:11PM ]



zip22

Comments: 1809
 		Sep 23 (2007) 07:33PM  

Steve wrote ...
My argument is not that Meizu doesn't copy Apple, it's that it is essentially irrelevant.


Steve wrote ...
I don't think the M6 was an Apple ripoff at all. Virtually the only thing it had in common with any Apple product was a white front and a shiny metal back


performance and features are absolutely important, but you said you don't take meizu seriously.



Steve

Comments: 1197
 		Sep 23 (2007) 09:37PM  

Saying the M6 didn't copy Apple and Meizu doesn't copy Apple are two different things. They didn't copy Apple with regards to the M6, except for a few superficial visual cues, but the M8 is a more direct physical copy, though not nearly so in functionality. Meizu does not begin and end with the M6.

Why does my product design philosophy have to be tied to Meizu's performance? They may make good or bad products, but neither alters my fundamental veiwpoint. In the case of the M6 they did everything right up to a point, but they didn't see the product through to its full potential, which is why I don't take them seriously.


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