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Cnet trashes the Cowon V5
comment: 13 | Thursday, March 25 (2010) 12:24PM | Posted by Michael

A shot of the V5 playing back a Divx torrent of Star Wars that Cnet "questionably procured"

The Cowon V5 didn't exactly go over well with our members when we first reported on it, but that's nothing compared to the ass-kicking that Donald Bell of Cnet just dished out. I haven't used the player myself, but after reading the article, I have to wonder if Cowon somehow personally harmed Mr. Bell or his family. The article is rather one-sided, throwing out one criticism after another, without nary a comment on what the V5 is good at. Any comments on sound quality? Of course not! This is Cowon we're talking about; who buys one of their players for that?

I'll side with Cnet on what sounds like a ridiculous GUI, filled with silly icons of men chasing women, and other facets that may just express the cultural differences between the US and Korea on what we find appealing. There is a good chance this issue can be alleviated by a user-created theme however. The article also downplays the V5's video support, and the quality of playback. Surprisingly, Donald Bell also implicates himself, on behalf of Cnet, for being advocates of piracy when he writes "Sure, the Cowon V5 can output our DivX torrent of "Star Wars" over HDMI, but the touch-screen user interface is a cluttered, emasculating, eye-straining, deliberately confusing facepalm." Who would of thought a site as big as Cnet, whose parent company is CBS, would openly express the use of copyrighted material obtained through illicit sources.

Anyway here's a few Highlowlights of the blog post:

"Things start falling apart on the main menu screen, which is composed of 27 animated icons--5 of which actually do anything. Maybe Cowon is trying to be cute with its useless animated icons of egg-laying chickens and lightening clouds, but mostly it feels like a bait-and-switch...After drilling down into the music playback screen, you're presented with a baby-blue-hued menu screen that tries to break your eyeballs and your patience simultaneously. The font Cowon uses is absurdly minuscule

What else can you do with the Cowon V5? Well, I could go into the Windows CE 6 desktop view, which is completely useless without a stylus--or maybe you'd like to hear more on the built-in calculator, voice recorder, or Flash game player? More important, though, is what's missing. Specifically, I'm more than a little bummed about the absence of Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or just about any other feature that could justify the V5's high price and annoying design. Then again, just imagining the kind of crippled Windows Explorer mobile browser that Cowon could have shoehorned onto here is enough to make my head explode.
Bottom line: the Cowon V5 is just an all-around disappointment. If you really need a PVP with HDMI out and HD video support, go grab an Archos 5 or pick up a Zune HD and wait for XviD support later this year."


No doubt many of the complaints are deserved, but it also came off as terribly nitpicky. Engadget has also published a review which ironically is more balanced in its analysis. You can read that here

Cnet: Cowon V5 supports HDMI, DivX, and WTF?

Comments

everunman

Comments: 32
Mar 25 (2010) 12:32PM  

Re the icons, their market is asia and thats what asians like, so why not look after their backbone. Im sure you will be able to change them sooner than later
[ edited Mar 25 (2010) 12:33PM ]




Michael
Location: New York City
Comments: 2802
Mar 25 (2010) 12:36PM  

Yeah that's what I think too everun. It's clear in a lot of Korean (and I suppose many other Asian) cultures that this sort of thing is popular with the masses. And as I mentioned there's more than likely going to be some sort of UCI theming released by the public that will be more appealing than the stock one.




tds101
Location: Queens Village, NYC, USA
Comments: 368
Mar 25 (2010) 12:36PM  

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF, that's a seriously rough and unnecessarily brutal review. Wow, Donald is a real azzhole,...............!arg




muzikmaniac

Comments: 33
Mar 25 (2010) 04:47PM  

Anyone surprised that Cowon isn't gettin' any Western love? Not me...they never do but they still keep sending us daps with top notch audio. Go Cowon!




alcalde

Comments: 121
Mar 25 (2010) 05:35PM  

"It's clear in a lot of Korean (and I suppose many other Asian) cultures that this sort of thing is popular with the masses."

But that's why we exported McDonalds around the globe... to homogenize cultures!

"Im sure you will be able to change them sooner than later"

Wouldn't it be more productive to change Koreans instead of the icons? We just need an iconless Happy Meal blitz. That said, something must be wrong with the West's plan for cultural homogenization/hegemony when Kim Jung Il is more Westernized than South Korean product designers.... Hmmmm.....

[Linky]

That said, aren't we supposed to complain when CNET makes points that AREN'T true, like making the iPhone the winner in the iPhone/Droid matchup even though the iPhone failed to receive phone calls?

This V5 is frighteningly overpriced and underfeatured, and someone needed to chew out Cowan. I don't think the points are nitpicky when you have a potentially $369 device with no wireless, horrible UI, no ID3 support(!!!), proprietary cables, etc., etc. Toss in about $100 more and you could have an N900 UMPC/phone with Wifi, 3G, bluetooth, a keyboard, yada, yada. Whatever the V5 may be good at, it's not $369 good at.








everunman

Comments: 32
Mar 26 (2010) 01:58PM  

Well done Michael on commenting over at cnet, great work! Was surprised Donald replied




tds101
Location: Queens Village, NYC, USA
Comments: 368
Mar 27 (2010) 12:41AM  

fantastic response and retort Michael, just fantastic.




34.50

Comments: 41
Mar 27 (2010) 07:20AM  

People actually go to cnet for reviews? They have the worst reviews for everything, and it's a shame that they're even considered a "technology" site.
[ edited Mar 27 (2010) 07:20AM ]




tmc

Comments: 73
Mar 29 (2010) 02:56PM  

I will fault ANY modern PMP for not having wireless connectivity including wifi. If *COST* is a big issue, create one WITH and one WITHOUT and those who want the feature buy the WC (wireless connectivity) verison. I think a more CONSTRUCTIVE thing to do would've been to make comparisons to what is already IN the market place and bash cowon's product based on what's already in the market at comparable pricing. If multiple BETTER products are available internationally-- especially in the USA market just quoting that alone is enough to trash the product's rep with actual buyers. Why would you buy THIS when THIS, THIS, THIS, AND THIS are better & cheaper products with more features and better overall design?

If more reviewers had the courage to talk crap about Apple products, we'd probably have much better products on the market with fewer restrictions & walled gardens, maybe even cheaper prices too! Cowon (or other Korean electronics makers) doen't grease the plams of USA investment firms & media outlets the way Apple does.
[ edited Mar 29 (2010) 02:59PM ]




undesign

Comments: 805
Mar 29 (2010) 08:31PM  

I wonder what the cnet dumbass thinks of the Cowon J3 not having wifi again.

Doesnt matter, I'm still buying it, not like they ever criticize apple's ipod for not having eq controls, voice recording, divx support (as they seem to promote use of) line in and of course NO FORCED USE OF SOFTWARE to transfer music.

Go CNET!

The only legit article they ever had was the blind sound test between the ipod, sony NW-HD5, cowon X5, etc and rated the Sony HD5 as the best sounding mp3 player. That I can give them credit for, but everything else theyve ever spewed out has been total crap, equivalent to that of an overfed monkey high on laxatives.




LiQuiD_FuSioN

Comments: 117
Mar 29 (2010) 10:29PM  

Great article, Michael! Been a while since I visited this site (since the '03 Rio Karma days).

Loved your comment on the Cnet page as well. You rule!




FatalAce

Comments: 34
Apr 04 (2010) 03:34PM  

donald bell is total trash. a joke of a reviewer




ninjaboy

Comments: 5
Apr 11 (2010) 02:26AM  

I noticed that cnet in both the USA and UK are very into anything related to Apple. As long as it's something from the Cupertino company, it's already a 8.5 out of 10.. doesn't matter what it is. But if the product is from somewhere else, they gonna get into real trouble.. and most of the time those companies will need to put in more than 200% effort on their product to get something decent in the reviews. I'm not anti Apple, but Cnet's reviews tend to be discriminatory.




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